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BIP - Automated and Secure Communication

3 messages, 6 Dec 2020. Started by Prayank.

Prayank, yanmaani, Luke Dashjr

Permalink Original thread on gnusha.org

Prayank permalink original

Hello Everyone,

I know there have been lot of controversial and heated discussions involving Samourai in past. Ignoring everything including the tweets in which Samourai team mentioned no interest in proposing a BIP related to automated and secure communication used in Soroban, I wanted to know if enough people would be interested in a BIP because it may help other bitcoin projects in future.

Tweets: https://twitter.com/SamouraiWallet/status/1334977957157367810 <https://twitter.com/SamouraiWallet/status/1334977957157367810?s=19>

https://twitter.com/SamouraiDev/status/1335103101188104194 <https://twitter.com/SamouraiDev/status/1335103101188104194?s=19>

Ben also tweeted that a BIP would make sense: https://twitter.com/benthecarman/status/1334977096079306753 <https://twitter.com/benthecarman/status/1334977096079306753?s=19>

I think we should keep all the controversial things aside and do everything that helps Bitcoin. It's mentioned in the medium article that it can help other projects like joinmarket, coinswap, snickr etc.

https://link.medium.com/uBvIJUSLQbb

The source code for a client library in Java is available here https://code.samourai.io/wallet/soroban-client-java and the source code for the Go based server component is available here https://code.samourai.io/wallet/samourai-soroban

Let me know if a BIP for such implementation to be used by other bitcoin projects makes sense and if anyone willing to help me in creating a BIP.

Thanks.

-- Prayank

yanmaani in reply to Prayank permalink original

The reason Samourai did not propose a BIP is that that was not a proposal to improve the Bitcoin protocol.

You could write a specification for it, but this mailing list is probably the wrong venue.

On 2020-12-06 18:20, Prayank via bitcoin-dev wrote:

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> Hello Everyone,
>
> I know there have been lot of controversial and heated discussions
> involving Samourai in past. Ignoring everything including the tweets
> in which Samourai team mentioned no interest in proposing a BIP
> related to automated and secure communication used in Soroban, I
> wanted to know if enough people would be interested in a BIP because
> it may help other bitcoin projects in future.
>
> Tweets: https://twitter.com/SamouraiWallet/status/1334977957157367810
> [1]
>
> https://twitter.com/SamouraiDev/status/1335103101188104194 [2]
>
> Ben also tweeted that a BIP would make sense:
> https://twitter.com/benthecarman/status/1334977096079306753 [3]
>
> I think we should keep all the controversial things aside and do
> everything that helps Bitcoin. It's mentioned in the medium article
> that it can help other projects like joinmarket, coinswap, snickr etc.
>
> https://link.medium.com/uBvIJUSLQbb
>
> The source code for a client library in Java is available here
> https://code.samourai.io/wallet/soroban-client-java and the source
> code for the Go based server component is available here
> https://code.samourai.io/wallet/samourai-soroban
>
> Let me know if a BIP for such implementation to be used by other
> bitcoin projects makes sense and if anyone willing to help me in
> creating a BIP.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- Prayank
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1] https://twitter.com/SamouraiWallet/status/1334977957157367810?s=19
> [2] https://twitter.com/SamouraiDev/status/1335103101188104194?s=19
> [3] https://twitter.com/benthecarman/status/1334977096079306753?s=19
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
Luke Dashjr in reply to yanmaani permalink original

Anything that makes sense to coordinate between different programs is BIP material, not just core Bitcoin protocol...

On Sunday 06 December 2020 19:14:13 yanmaani--- via bitcoin-dev wrote:

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> The reason Samourai did not propose a BIP is that that was not a
> proposal to improve the Bitcoin protocol.
>
> You could write a specification for it, but this mailing list is
> probably the wrong venue.
>
> On 2020-12-06 18:20, Prayank via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > I know there have been lot of controversial and heated discussions
> > involving Samourai in past. Ignoring everything including the tweets
> > in which Samourai team mentioned no interest in proposing a BIP
> > related to automated and secure communication used in Soroban, I
> > wanted to know if enough people would be interested in a BIP because
> > it may help other bitcoin projects in future.
> >
> > Tweets: https://twitter.com/SamouraiWallet/status/1334977957157367810
> > [1]
> >
> > https://twitter.com/SamouraiDev/status/1335103101188104194 [2]
> >
> > Ben also tweeted that a BIP would make sense:
> > https://twitter.com/benthecarman/status/1334977096079306753 [3]
> >
> > I think we should keep all the controversial things aside and do
> > everything that helps Bitcoin. It's mentioned in the medium article
> > that it can help other projects like joinmarket, coinswap, snickr etc.
> >
> > https://link.medium.com/uBvIJUSLQbb
> >
> > The source code for a client library in Java is available here
> > https://code.samourai.io/wallet/soroban-client-java and the source
> > code for the Go based server component is available here
> > https://code.samourai.io/wallet/samourai-soroban
> >
> > Let me know if a BIP for such implementation to be used by other
> > bitcoin projects makes sense and if anyone willing to help me in
> > creating a BIP.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > -- Prayank
> >
> > Links:
> > ------
> > [1] https://twitter.com/SamouraiWallet/status/1334977957157367810?s=19
> > [2] https://twitter.com/SamouraiDev/status/1335103101188104194?s=19
> > [3] https://twitter.com/benthecarman/status/1334977096079306753?s=19
> > _______________________________________________
> > bitcoin-dev mailing list
> > bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org
> > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>
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