bitcoin-dev moderation

2 messages, 1 to 2 Aug 2019. Started by Emil Engler.

Emil Engler, Bryan Bishop

Governance, moderation and the list itself

Emil Engler 1 Aug 2019, 19:47 UTC permalink original

In the last #bitcoin-core-dev IRC meeting, the mailing list moderation was slightly discussed. It was decided to do this discussion mainly on this mailing list (which makes sense).

The current situation is that the moderation is slow and takes around

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>24h for a E-Mail to be on the mailing list.

Jonas Schnelli proposed: "I propose that we add more moderators to shorten the moderation lag which has been between >24h, thus makes debates cumbersome"

Beside this I had the idea of people who already contributed n e-mails to the mailing list don't need an approval for any e-mail anymore (Where n is the number of previous e-mails). Does this exists already?

Greetings, Emil Engler

Bryan Bishop 2 Aug 2019, 11:43 UTC in reply to Emil Engler permalink original

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 10:50 PM Emil Engler via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org> wrote:

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> The current situation is that the moderation is slow and takes around
> >24h for a E-Mail to be on the mailing list

It really shouldn't be 24 hours. Our strategy was to have a few moderators in different timezones to cover sleep shifts or other disruptions of service. Evidently this has not been adequate.

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> Jonas Schnelli proposed: "I propose that we add more moderators to
> shorten the moderation lag which has been between >24h, thus makes
> debates cumbersome"

Makes sense. I'll go find a few people.

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> Beside this I had the idea of people who already contributed n e-mails
> to the mailing list don't need an approval for any e-mail anymore (Where
> n is the number of previous e-mails). Does this exists already?

There is an active software vulnerability which requires moderation to be enabled. This version of mailman is unmaintained, and Linux Foundation is migrating away from or abandoning the email protocol so they are less willing to do backend infrastructure work. This manifests in other ways, like downtime, but also weird situations like missing emails that never hit the moderation queue. I get pings from different people about two times a year where they report an email that they think I missed, but in fact it never hit the moderation queue at all. Email clearly isn't the greatest protocol.

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