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Design Competition

9 messages, 30 Sep to 1 Oct 2015. Started by Richard Olsen.

Richard Olsen (2), Eric Lombrozo, Milly Bitcoin, Thomas Kerin, Jeff Garzik, Benjamin Cordes, Dave Scotese, Odinn Cyberguerrilla

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Richard Olsen permalink original

All,

We are looking for participants in a Bitcoin related competition: the aim is to build a trading platform (initially for foreign exchange, other assets will follow) which lets participants settle their trades through the blockchain via coloured coins. To facilitate a quicker trade reconciliation, the use of a sidechain is a suggestion but by no means a requirement. There will be an online briefing event today where we will outline the requirements in more detail, though much of it we have posted on our website www.lykkex.com .

As we want this to be a community driven effort rather than something turning into a proprietary technology, all contributions will be made available under a MIT license on Github.

I look forward to answering your questions at the online briefing event or over email,

Thank you and kind regards, Richard Olsen

Eric Lombrozo in reply to Richard Olsen permalink original

I've also got a competition where the object is to build a spaceship using only a watermelon, two donkeys, some duct tape, and a fire hydrant.

------ Original Message ------ From: "Richard Olsen via bitcoin-dev" <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org> To: "bitcoin-dev" <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org> Sent: 9/29/2015 11:37:07 PM Subject: [bitcoin-dev] Design Competition

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>All,
>
>We are looking for participants in a Bitcoin related competition: the
>aim is to build a trading platform (initially for foreign exchange,
>other assets will follow) which lets participants settle their trades
>through the blockchain via coloured coins. To facilitate a quicker
>trade reconciliation, the use of a sidechain is a suggestion but by no
>means a requirement. There will be an online briefing event today where
>we will outline the requirements in more detail, though much of it we
>have posted on our website www.lykkex.com .
>
>As we want this to be a community driven effort rather than something
>turning into a proprietary technology, all contributions will be made
>available under a MIT license on Github.
>
>I look forward to answering your questions at the online briefing event
>or over email,
>
>Thank you and kind regards,
>Richard Olsen
>
Milly Bitcoin in reply to Eric Lombrozo permalink original

On 9/30/2015 3:16 AM, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev wrote:

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> I've also got a competition where the object is to build a spaceship
> using only a watermelon, two donkeys, some duct tape, and a fire hydrant.

There are many people interested in starting new services and who are interested in hiring developers or at least partnering with them. This is an important part of the ecosystem. I have noticed both here and on Reddit that when someone proposes an idea it goes one of two ways: either there is a large amount of interest if the person is well known or liked or; the person is accused of being a spammer or made fun of if they are not well known or liked. All this does is make the developers look like a small fickle group who actively promote Bitcoin as a an insiders' club (much like the Fed). There should probably be a list where people can actively discuss proposed or ongoing projects and look for developers to hire.

Russ

Thomas Kerin in reply to Richard Olsen permalink original

Who is funding this?

Why not fund Core development? On 30 Sep 2015 7:37 am, "Richard Olsen via bitcoin-dev" < bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org> wrote:

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> All,
>
> We are looking for participants in a Bitcoin related competition: the aim
> is to build a trading platform (initially for foreign exchange, other
> assets will follow) which lets participants settle their trades through the
> blockchain via coloured coins. To facilitate a quicker trade
> reconciliation, the use of a sidechain is a suggestion but by no means a
> requirement. There will be an online briefing event today where we will
> outline the requirements in more detail, though much of it we have posted
> on our website www.lykkex.com .
>
> As we want this to be a community driven effort rather than something
> turning into a proprietary technology, all contributions will be made
> available under a MIT license on Github.
>
> I look forward to answering your questions at the online briefing event
> or over email,
>
> Thank you and kind regards,
> Richard Olsen
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>
>
Jeff Garzik in reply to Richard Olsen permalink original

This sounds like a cool competition; it is also off-topic for this mailing list, which is focused on bitcoin protocol and reference implementation development.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:37 AM, Richard Olsen via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org> wrote:

Quoted text (28 lines)
> All,
>
> We are looking for participants in a Bitcoin related competition: the aim
> is to build a trading platform (initially for foreign exchange, other
> assets will follow) which lets participants settle their trades through the
> blockchain via coloured coins. To facilitate a quicker trade
> reconciliation, the use of a sidechain is a suggestion but by no means a
> requirement. There will be an online briefing event today where we will
> outline the requirements in more detail, though much of it we have posted
> on our website www.lykkex.com .
>
> As we want this to be a community driven effort rather than something
> turning into a proprietary technology, all contributions will be made
> available under a MIT license on Github.
>
> I look forward to answering your questions at the online briefing event
> or over email,
>
> Thank you and kind regards,
> Richard Olsen
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>
>
Richard Olsen in reply to Thomas Kerin permalink original

Lykke Corp based in Zürich funds the competition.

2 Mio Lykke coins (8'000 USD) is allocated to funding core development in next 3 months,

Richard

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> On 30.09.2015, at 14:22, Thomas Kerin <thomas.kerin@gmail•com> wrote:
>
> Who is funding this?
>
> Why not fund Core development?
>
>> On 30 Sep 2015 7:37 am, "Richard Olsen via bitcoin-dev" <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> We are looking for participants in a Bitcoin related competition: the aim is to build a trading platform (initially for foreign exchange, other assets will follow) which lets participants settle their trades through the blockchain via coloured coins. To facilitate a quicker trade reconciliation, the use of a sidechain is a suggestion but by no means a requirement. There will be an online briefing event today where we will outline the requirements in more detail, though much of it we have posted on our website  www.lykkex.com .
>>
>> As we want this to be a community driven  effort rather than something turning into a proprietary technology, all contributions will be made available under a MIT license on Github.
>>
>> I look forward to answering your questions at the online briefing event or over email,
>>
>> Thank you and kind regards,
>> Richard Olsen
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> bitcoin-dev mailing list
>> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org
>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
Benjamin Cordes in reply to Richard Olsen permalink original

Hi Richard,

its great that people with a lot of experience in financial markets take interest in these topics. I don't think you will receive the best answers here. The Bitcointalk Altcoin section is currently the best place for such announcements. I believe there is room for a better board/list for new 2.0 projects. Bitcoin dev is not very welcoming to discussions/debates/projects which go beyond digital cash systems (assets, markets, etc.), as it is very focused on the core problems which are under-funded.

Anyone who wants to build a better venue for 2.0 projects feel free to contact me. This could be a mailing list or an upgraded message board. Most such boards are project/currency specific, but there is one missing for announcements.

In terms of markets on top of blockchains, I have sent a private email.

Regards, Benjamin

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Richard Olsen via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org> wrote:

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> Lykke Corp based in Zürich funds the competition.
>
> 2 Mio Lykke coins (8'000 USD) is allocated to funding core development in
> next 3 months,
>
> Richard
>
> On 30.09.2015, at 14:22, Thomas Kerin <thomas.kerin@gmail•com> wrote:
>
> Who is funding this?
>
> Why not fund Core development?
> On 30 Sep 2015 7:37 am, "Richard Olsen via bitcoin-dev" <
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> We are looking for participants in a Bitcoin related competition: the aim
>> is to build a trading platform (initially for foreign exchange, other
>> assets will follow) which lets participants settle their trades through the
>> blockchain via coloured coins. To facilitate a quicker trade
>> reconciliation, the use of a sidechain is a suggestion but by no means a
>> requirement. There will be an online briefing event today where we will
>> outline the requirements in more detail, though much of it we have posted
>> on our website www.lykkex.com .
>>
>> As we want this to be a community driven effort rather than something
>> turning into a proprietary technology, all contributions will be made
>> available under a MIT license on Github.
>>
>> I look forward to answering your questions at the online briefing event
>> or over email,
>>
>> Thank you and kind regards,
>> Richard Olsen
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> bitcoin-dev mailing list
>> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org
>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>
>
Dave Scotese in reply to Benjamin Cordes permalink original

I am waiting for the bitcoin (not bitcoin-dev) mailing list so that anyone who writes "That's off-topic" can also include a link to it.

Someone else mentioned that they read all these emails in about 15 minutes. I'm a bit slower than that, but I'm reading the vitcoin-xt stuff too. It isn't too much for me, but it will be nice to have a more open list, such as is planned. What's the hold up? Don't answer here, at least not until the list is ready :-)

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Benjamin via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org> wrote:

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> Hi Richard,
>
> its great that people with a lot of experience in financial markets take
> interest in these topics. I don't think you will receive the best answers
> here. The Bitcointalk Altcoin section is currently the best place for such
> announcements. I believe there is room for a better board/list for new 2.0
> projects. Bitcoin dev is not very welcoming to discussions/debates/projects
> which go beyond digital cash systems (assets, markets, etc.), as it is very
> focused on the core problems which are under-funded.
>
> Anyone who wants to build a better venue for 2.0 projects feel free to
> contact me. This could be a mailing list or an upgraded message board. Most
> such boards are project/currency specific, but there is one missing for
> announcements.
>
> In terms of markets on top of blockchains, I have sent a private email.
>
> Regards,
> Benjamin
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Richard Olsen via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org> wrote:
>
>> Lykke Corp based in Zürich funds the competition.
>>
>> 2 Mio Lykke coins (8'000 USD) is allocated to funding core development in
>> next 3 months,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> On 30.09.2015, at 14:22, Thomas Kerin <thomas.kerin@gmail•com> wrote:
>>
>> Who is funding this?
>>
>> Why not fund Core development?
>> On 30 Sep 2015 7:37 am, "Richard Olsen via bitcoin-dev" <
>> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org> wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> We are looking for participants in a Bitcoin related competition: the
>>> aim is to build a trading platform (initially for foreign exchange, other
>>> assets will follow) which lets participants settle their trades through the
>>> blockchain via coloured coins. To facilitate a quicker trade
>>> reconciliation, the use of a sidechain is a suggestion but by no means a
>>> requirement. There will be an online briefing event today where we will
>>> outline the requirements in more detail, though much of it we have posted
>>> on our website www.lykkex.com .
>>>
>>> As we want this to be a community driven effort rather than something
>>> turning into a proprietary technology, all contributions will be made
>>> available under a MIT license on Github.
>>>
>>> I look forward to answering your questions at the online briefing event
>>> or over email,
>>>
>>> Thank you and kind regards,
>>> Richard Olsen
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> bitcoin-dev mailing list
>>> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org
>>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> bitcoin-dev mailing list
>> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org
>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>
>
Odinn Cyberguerrilla in reply to Richard Olsen permalink original

Grosses me out that you have enforced KYC as part of what you are doing for anyone who would decide to get involved:

https://wiki.lykkex.com/?id=start#lykke_citizens

Good luck with that, I'm sure not going to be a part of it, and I recommend that no-one else does either.

- - O

Richard Olsen via bitcoin-dev:

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> All,
>
> We are looking for participants in a Bitcoin related competition:
> the aim is to build a trading platform (initially for foreign
> exchange, other assets will follow) which lets participants settle
> their trades through the blockchain via coloured coins. To
> facilitate a quicker trade reconciliation, the use of a sidechain
> is a suggestion but by no means a requirement. There will be an
> online briefing event today where we will outline the requirements
> in more detail, though much of it we have posted on our website
> www.lykkex.com .
>
> As we want this to be a community driven effort rather than
> something turning into a proprietary technology, all contributions
> will be made available under a MIT license on Github.
>
> I look forward to answering your questions at the online briefing
> event or over email,
>
> Thank you and kind regards, Richard Olsen
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev mailing
> list bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>

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