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Public Debate Challenge

5 messages, 7 Oct 2015. Started by Venzen Khaosan.

Venzen Khaosan (2), NxtChg, Peter Todd, NotMike Hearn

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Venzen Khaosan permalink original

Mike Hearn,

I challenge you to a public debate with the following conditions:

- - the topic is Bitcoin - - 15 minutes in length (19mins including breaks) - - 3 sessions of 5 minutes each - - each speaker makes one statement in each session, not exceeding 2mins - - 2 minute breaks between sessions - - we agree to an arbiter - - a public venue with an international audience - - I make the first statement versus your already well-established position and widely publicized views. - - each speaker commits to making 3 statements and participating in the full duration of the event - 19 minutes - - the footage will be published as-is with no editing or right to forfeiture, showing both participants at all times. - - to protect myself from your "official" friends, the event will be unannounced and will start when you see me on an event panel.

sincerely, Venzen Khaosan

Venzen Khaosan in reply to Venzen Khaosan permalink original

Sure, and I share your view - I want to know what is happening in the Bitcoin development space when I scan this email account.

Unfortunately, one moral imbecile keeps polluting this space.

I am confident that I have the debating resources and mental savvy to show this individual to be an intellectual lightweight and a bankrupt speaker that should shut his mouth, for good, in this list.

I'm not sure where your own allegiances lie, but if you think XT is a bright idea, you can go there and participate to your heart's content. In the meantime, this is a Bitcoin Core developer list and self-proclaimed enemies of Core should not post here or pretend to have consensus-blocking powers, as O'Hearn keeps capitulating.

Let me put this aspiring lord in his place and then we talk again. I will knock him down in round 1 and knock him out in round 3. If you love this man, go to xt-dev list and enjoy and spend your coins in that alternate chain.

Venzen Khaosan

On 10/07/2015 05:26 PM, Patrick Mccorry (PGR) wrote:

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> Hi,
>
> I do not mean to be rude (I am sure you have the best intentions).
> But I do not think this e-mail (or the others) are appropriate for
> the mailing list. I want to be notified by new developments in the
> community, not really about public debates of character. Please,
> can these e-mails be kept off-list?
>
> Paddy
>
> ________________________________________ From:
> bitcoin-dev-bounces@lists•linuxfoundation•org
> <bitcoin-dev-bounces@lists•linuxfoundation•org> on behalf of
> Venzen Khaosan via bitcoin-dev
> <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org> Sent: 07 October 2015 11:19
> To: Mike Hearn; Bitcoin Dev Subject: [bitcoin-dev] Public Debate
> Challenge
>
> Mike Hearn,
>
> I challenge you to a public debate with the following conditions:
>
> - the topic is Bitcoin - 15 minutes in length (19mins including
> breaks) - 3 sessions of 5 minutes each - each speaker makes one
> statement in each session, not exceeding 2mins - 2 minute breaks
> between sessions - we agree to an arbiter - a public venue with an
> international audience - I make the first statement versus your
> already well-established position and widely publicized views. -
> each speaker commits to making 3 statements and participating in
> the full duration of the event - 19 minutes - the footage will be
> published as-is with no editing or right to forfeiture, showing
> both participants at all times. - to protect myself from your
> "official" friends, the event will be unannounced and will start
> when you see me on an event panel.
>
> sincerely, Venzen Khaosan
> _______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev
> mailing list bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>
NxtChg in reply to Venzen Khaosan permalink original
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>Unfortunately, one moral imbecile keeps polluting this space.

Indeed.

Peter Todd in reply to Venzen Khaosan permalink original

On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 05:19:29PM +0700, Venzen Khaosan via bitcoin-dev wrote:

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> Mike Hearn,
>
> I challenge you to a public debate with the following conditions:

This is very off-topic for a development mailing list.

Go away.

NotMike Hearn in reply to Peter Todd permalink original

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org> wrote:

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> On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 05:19:29PM +0700, Venzen Khaosan via bitcoin-dev
> wrote:
> > Mike Hearn,
> >
> > I challenge you to a public debate with the following conditions:
>
> This is very off-topic for a development mailing list.
>

I disagree.

Therefore, we do not have a consensus.

As there is no consensus, you need to do one of two things:

1) Post a 10 page, 5 paragraph persuasive essay about how you are a Traitor to Consensus, and do it loudly on Reddit, MySpace, LinkedIn, etc, so that everyone in the community is correctly informed.

2) Do nothing.

This is a very logical argument and is of the utmost seriousness, as what Peter[:-1] is doing is a threat to Consensus, which is the very foundation of Bitcoin. These are related issues.

I question Peter[:-1]'s motives and hereby challenge him to a public debate with the following conditions:

- - The subject is Bitcoin.
- - The debate may take place at any time at any place.
- - You will not know that the debate has begun until it is over.

Sincerely, NMH

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