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Bitcoin Dev Archive 2015

Tough questions for Peter Todd, Chief Scientist {Mastercoin | Counterparty | Coinkite | Darkwallet | Viacoin}

9 messages, 4 Jun 2015. Started by Sven Berg.

Sven Berg (3), Mark F, Daniel Stadulis, Braun Brelin, Kristov Atlas, Jeff Garzik, Gavin Andresen

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Sven Berg permalink original
1) Hours/week have you devoted to each project out of a 40hr work week
2) Upfront and ongoing fees for use of your name
3) Break down total amounts for each project
4) Start dates of contracts for each project
5) End dates (if applicable)

6) Current and past holdings of altcoins/appcoins (including liquidation dates)

7) Describe return on investment to investors related to your activities
during employment
    (other than marketing/price pump)

8) Describe your involvement with Initial Coin Offers (ICO) of applicable

9) Explain rational for pursuit of ICO fund sources rather than
community/established
    businesses (Lighthouse, legit startups, etc.)
Mark F in reply to Sven Berg permalink original

Why is this your business or the business of anyone on this list? Take it somewhere else.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Sven Berg <svenberg@airmail•cc> wrote:

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> 1) Hours/week have you devoted to each project out of a 40hr work week
>
> 2) Upfront and ongoing fees for use of your name
>
> 3) Break down total amounts for each project
>
> 4) Start dates of contracts for each project
>
> 5) End dates (if applicable)
>
> 6) Current and past holdings of altcoins/appcoins (including liquidation
> dates)
>
> 7) Describe return on investment to investors related to your activities
> during employment
>     (other than marketing/price pump)
>
> 8) Describe your involvement with Initial Coin Offers (ICO) of
> applicable
>
> 9) Explain rational for pursuit of ICO fund sources rather than
> community/established
>     businesses (Lighthouse, legit startups, etc.)
>
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> Berg Investigations LLC.
>
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Daniel Stadulis in reply to Mark F permalink original

Off topic and inappropriate

On a meta level, all the anti-Todd comments are originating from *@airmail.cc accounts.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Mark Friedenbach <mark@friedenbach•org> wrote:

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> Why is this your business or the business of anyone on this list? Take it
> somewhere else.
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Sven Berg <svenberg@airmail•cc> wrote:
>
>> 1) Hours/week have you devoted to each project out of a 40hr work week
>>
>> 2) Upfront and ongoing fees for use of your name
>>
>> 3) Break down total amounts for each project
>>
>> 4) Start dates of contracts for each project
>>
>> 5) End dates (if applicable)
>>
>> 6) Current and past holdings of altcoins/appcoins (including liquidation
>> dates)
>>
>> 7) Describe return on investment to investors related to your activities
>> during employment
>>     (other than marketing/price pump)
>>
>> 8) Describe your involvement with Initial Coin Offers (ICO) of
>> applicable
>>
>> 9) Explain rational for pursuit of ICO fund sources rather than
>> community/established
>>     businesses (Lighthouse, legit startups, etc.)
>>
>> --
>> Berg Investigations LLC.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bitcoin-development mailing list
>> Bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge•net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>>
>
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Sven Berg in reply to Mark F permalink original

On 2015-06-04 21:54, Mark Friedenbach wrote:

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> Why is this your business or the business of anyone on this list? Take
> it somewhere else.

Do you have a better avenue? Todd refuses to answer reasonable questions about his involvement in these scams and failures elsewhere. The community deserves answers when someone so prominent is involved in so many shady projects with huge losses most recently the failure of DarkWallet.

Braun Brelin in reply to Sven Berg permalink original

I'm sorry. Are you a federal prosecutor? or a state prosecutor? Or involved with law enforcement in any way? Or involved in a civil suit against Mr. Todd?

The "community" doesn't deserve anything in this regard. The appropriate response to your questions is: "F*** off".

Braun Brelin

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:04 AM, Sven Berg <svenberg@airmail•cc> wrote:

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> On 2015-06-04 21:54, Mark Friedenbach wrote:
> > Why is this your business or the business of anyone on this list? Take
> > it somewhere else.
>
> Do you have a better avenue? Todd refuses to answer reasonable questions
> about his involvement in these scams and failures elsewhere. The
> community deserves answers when someone so prominent is involved in so
> many shady projects with huge losses most recently the failure of
> DarkWallet.
>
> --
> Berg Investigations LLC
>
>
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Sven Berg in reply to Braun Brelin permalink original

On 2015-06-04 22:14, Braun Brelin wrote:

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> I'm sorry.  Are you a federal prosecutor? or a state prosecutor? Or
> involved with law enforcement in any way?
> Or involved in a civil suit against Mr. Todd?

Depending on Todd's answers I'm sure all of the above will be involved.

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> The "community" doesn't deserve anything in this regard.  The
> appropriate response to your questions is:  "F*** off".

Strong words to some reasonable questions.

Kristov Atlas in reply to Sven Berg permalink original

Why would Peter be accountable to you in any shape or form? What contact did he sign onto with you?

-Kr On Jun 4, 2015 5:52 PM, "Sven Berg" <svenberg@airmail•cc> wrote:

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> 1) Hours/week have you devoted to each project out of a 40hr work week
>
> 2) Upfront and ongoing fees for use of your name
>
> 3) Break down total amounts for each project
>
> 4) Start dates of contracts for each project
>
> 5) End dates (if applicable)
>
> 6) Current and past holdings of altcoins/appcoins (including liquidation
> dates)
>
> 7) Describe return on investment to investors related to your activities
> during employment
>     (other than marketing/price pump)
>
> 8) Describe your involvement with Initial Coin Offers (ICO) of
> applicable
>
> 9) Explain rational for pursuit of ICO fund sources rather than
> community/established
>     businesses (Lighthouse, legit startups, etc.)
>
> --
> Berg Investigations LLC.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> _______________________________________________
> Bitcoin-development mailing list
> Bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge•net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>
Jeff Garzik in reply to Daniel Stadulis permalink original

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Daniel Stadulis <dstadulis@gmail•com> wrote:

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> Off topic and inappropriate
>

Indeed.

Take this somewhere else, Mr. Berg. This is a technical mailing list.

Gavin Andresen in reply to Sven Berg permalink original

Completely off-topic for this mailing list, which is about coding/technology not people.

Stop or I will excercise my moderator superpowers and remove you from this list.