bitcoin-dev Digest, Vol 102, Issue 15
3 messages, 7 to 8 Nov 2023. Started by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton.
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton (2), James Blacklock
On Tuesday, November 7, 2023, <bitcoin-dev-request@lists•linuxfoundation•org> wrote:
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> Rooms can be E2E encrypted.
please, NO.
there are people who have such valuable skills that their lives are put in danger if they engage in encrypted conversations.
additionally the entire point of an open project IS THAT IT IS OPEN.
mailing lists are the lowest OPEN common denominator.
l.
Agreed, email lists are the way. Personally I love reading the email list; it is a great resource to know what kinds of technical discussions are going on in the community. I certainly hope we can just migrate to a different email list.
On Tuesday, November 7th, 2023 at 3:20 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org> wrote:
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> > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2023, <bitcoin-dev-request@lists•linuxfoundation•org> wrote: > > > Rooms can be E2E encrypted. > > please, NO. > > there are people who have such valuable skills that their > lives are put in danger if they engage in encrypted conversations. > > additionally the entire point of an open project IS THAT IT IS OPEN. > > mailing lists are the lowest OPEN common denominator. > > l. > > > -- > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
On Tuesday, November 7, 2023, James Blacklock <jamesblacklock@protonmail•com> wrote:
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> Agreed, email lists are the way. Personally I love reading the email
list; it is a great resource to know what kinds of technical discussions are going on in the community. I certainly hope we can just migrate to a different email list.
i have a friend alain williams who runs lists.phcomp.co.uk and is competent at it. was the UKUUG Chair err 25 years ago? cc'd.
the other lowest-common-denominator method is of course nntp newsgroups (eternal-september.org run an excellent spam-free one) and i do not mean "newsgroups via groups.google.com", i mean *actual* nntp newsgroups, you know, the ones that have been running for 40 years and everyone has forgotten even exist? :)
they were and always have been distributed and distributable (and spam-free *if* run properly) and i am sure the owner of eternal-september would be happy to host/distribute bitcoin-dev.
another idea is public-inbox which actually stores an entire mail archive *in a git repository* https://github.com/nojb/public-inbox
public-inbox implements the sharing of an email inbox via git to complement or replace traditional mailing lists. Readers may read via NNTP, IMAP, Atom feeds or HTML archives.
public-inbox can be "initialised" from a mailman archive so you can have the entire past history of messages in the git repo as well. it's really quite sophisticated.
if anyone doesn't like "email bcuz old", or wants to remain anonymous, they can always get a protonmail account, use mail-forwarders, and TOR. and if they are happy to use nntp they can register on eternal-september.org, which then allows them to send and receive... and then use TOR-proxy.
all doable *without* having to install something that will consume alarmingly high resources and cost a fortune in hosting every month.
l.
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> > > On Tuesday, November 7th, 2023 at 3:20 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation•org> wrote:
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> > >> >> >> On Tuesday, November 7, 2023, <
bitcoin-dev-request@lists•linuxfoundation•org> wrote:
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>> >> > Rooms can be E2E encrypted. >> >> please, NO. >> >> there are people who have such valuable skills that their >> lives are put in danger if they engage in encrypted conversations. >> >> additionally the entire point of an open project IS THAT IT IS OPEN. >> >> mailing lists are the lowest OPEN common denominator. >> >> l. >> >> >> -- >> --- >> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 >