What if we let Quantum Hunters get Bitcoin rewards ?
7 messages, 7 to 22 May 2026. Started by Amon BAZONGO.
Amon BAZONGO (4), Nikita Karetnikov, RB GAMING, Murch
Hi all,
I'd like to share a draft Informational BIP as an alternative framework to BIP-361's proposed coin freeze.
The core argument: rather than suspending Bitcoin's neutrality to prevent quantum theft, we can structure the inevitable quantum capture of exposed coins as a self-financing prize mechanism — the largest open technological prize in history.
The proposal introduces three components:
- Genesis Quantum Transaction (GQT): recognition of a successful spend from a quantum-exposed address - Quantum Vault (QV): automatically receives 90% of captured funds, distributes periodically to proven quantum actors synchronized with the halving cycle - Quantum Proof Address (QPA): the on-chain identity of any actor who demonstrates quantum capture capability, forming a public, unfalsifiable register of global quantum capabilities
The capturing actor receives 10% immediately as a First Reward, with ongoing distributions from the Vault — creating long-term alignment with ecosystem stability rather than incentivizing immediate liquidation.
Looking forward to technical and philosophical feedback.
Best, Amon
Amon,
Why would anyone participate in this instead of just stealing the funds? Also, this seems to be AI-written.
Thanks, Nikita
Nikita,
Happy to read you.
First, with what I propose you cannot "steal the funds". If you have quantum capture capability, you will receive 10% of the amount as a reward and the rest goes to a fund for a periodic distribution.
And yes, I lay out my ideas with AI assistance. I hope it's not forbidden.
Thanks, Amon
On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 4:07 PM Nikita Karetnikov <nikita@karetnikov•org> wrote:
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> Amon, > > Why would anyone participate in this instead of just stealing the funds? > Also, this seems to be AI-written. > > Thanks, > Nikita > >
Hi Amon,
I read your BIP draft, and personally I like the “One Piece” concept more than freezing Bitcoin because of quantum theft risks. The idea is creative, and theoretically it makes sense.
However, from a practical perspective, I am still concerned about the ~6.7M BTC that could become quantum-exposed. The main issue is that we cannot accurately predict how fast quantum computing will evolve in the future. If quantum capabilities become much stronger than expected, the reward mechanism could create massive incentives for attackers and potentially harm Bitcoin’s long-term stability and value.
I do not think the idea is bad at all in fact, it is one of the more interesting approaches to this problem. I just feel the risks may currently be higher than we expect, which is why freezing vulnerable coins seems like the safer option for now.
Of course, this is only my personal point of view. I may be missing some cases or thinking differently from your perspective, so please do not take my comments the wrong way. I appreciate the effort and creativity behind the proposal, and maybe with further refinement the idea could become even stronger.
Best regards, Ronak
On Thu, 7 May, 2026, 9:19 pm Amon BAZONGO, <amonmoce@gmail•com> wrote:
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> Hi all, > > I'd like to share a draft Informational BIP as an alternative framework to > BIP-361's proposed coin freeze. > > The core argument: rather than suspending Bitcoin's neutrality to prevent > quantum theft, we can structure the inevitable quantum capture of exposed > coins as a self-financing prize mechanism — the largest open technological > prize in history. > > The proposal introduces three components: > > - Genesis Quantum Transaction (GQT): recognition of a successful spend > from a quantum-exposed address > - Quantum Vault (QV): automatically receives 90% of captured funds, > distributes periodically to proven quantum actors synchronized with the > halving cycle > - Quantum Proof Address (QPA): the on-chain identity of any actor who > demonstrates quantum capture capability, forming a public, unfalsifiable > register of global quantum capabilities > > The capturing actor receives 10% immediately as a First Reward, with > ongoing distributions from the Vault — creating long-term alignment with > ecosystem stability rather than incentivizing immediate liquidation. > > Draft: > https://github.com/amonmoce/Hunting-The-Bitcoin-One-Piece/blob/master/bip-hunting-the-bitcoin-one-piece.md > > Looking forward to technical and philosophical feedback. > > Best, > Amon > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups•com. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/46a49975-dbaa-48d5-b50f-36c649041933n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/46a49975-dbaa-48d5-b50f-36c649041933n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . >
Hello Ronak and all,
Thanks for the feedback. You are right to be concerned.
Let me add some more lights: 1. First, we suppose BIP-360 is a prerequisite to my proposal. Which means that all new addresses would be quantum-resistant. Each old-address holder is responsible to migrate to a new quantum-resistant address. 2. So when a hunter (I prefer this term instead of attacker), proves quantum capability from a monitored address, vulnerable because it didn't migrate to a new quantum-resistant address, the transaction can be redirected to mechanism that splits the transaction in two: 10% to the winning hunter and 90% to a fund that will distribute the rest following the bitcoin halving cycle. 3. So in practice, each vulnerable UTXO is a "bitcoin one piece" opportunity. So we might not even have the same hunter for all the ~6.7M BTC.
So it diffuses the risks, so we do not break bitcoin's core principles, and we still allow hunters to deserve their reward the same way miners deserve their reward.
I don't know if it adds some elements that can help clarify the idea.
Thanks for reading, Amon
On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 8:32 PM RB GAMING <ronakbharadiya180@gmail•com> wrote:
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> Hi Amon, > > I read your BIP draft, and personally I like the “One Piece” concept more > than freezing Bitcoin because of quantum theft risks. The idea is creative, > and theoretically it makes sense. > > However, from a practical perspective, I am still concerned about the > ~6.7M BTC that could become quantum-exposed. The main issue is that we > cannot accurately predict how fast quantum computing will evolve in the > future. If quantum capabilities become much stronger than expected, the > reward mechanism could create massive incentives for attackers and > potentially harm Bitcoin’s long-term stability and value. > > I do not think the idea is bad at all in fact, it is one of the more > interesting approaches to this problem. I just feel the risks may currently > be higher than we expect, which is why freezing vulnerable coins seems like > the safer option for now. > > Of course, this is only my personal point of view. I may be missing some > cases or thinking differently from your perspective, so please do not take > my comments the wrong way. I appreciate the effort and creativity behind > the proposal, and maybe with further refinement the idea could become even > stronger. > > Best regards, > Ronak > > On Thu, 7 May, 2026, 9:19 pm Amon BAZONGO, <amonmoce@gmail•com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'd like to share a draft Informational BIP as an alternative framework >> to BIP-361's proposed coin freeze. >> >> The core argument: rather than suspending Bitcoin's neutrality to prevent >> quantum theft, we can structure the inevitable quantum capture of exposed >> coins as a self-financing prize mechanism — the largest open technological >> prize in history. >> >> The proposal introduces three components: >> >> - Genesis Quantum Transaction (GQT): recognition of a successful spend >> from a quantum-exposed address >> - Quantum Vault (QV): automatically receives 90% of captured funds, >> distributes periodically to proven quantum actors synchronized with the >> halving cycle >> - Quantum Proof Address (QPA): the on-chain identity of any actor who >> demonstrates quantum capture capability, forming a public, unfalsifiable >> register of global quantum capabilities >> >> The capturing actor receives 10% immediately as a First Reward, with >> ongoing distributions from the Vault — creating long-term alignment with >> ecosystem stability rather than incentivizing immediate liquidation. >> >> Draft: >> https://github.com/amonmoce/Hunting-The-Bitcoin-One-Piece/blob/master/bip-hunting-the-bitcoin-one-piece.md >> >> Looking forward to technical and philosophical feedback. >> >> Best, >> Amon >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups•com. >> To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/46a49975-dbaa-48d5-b50f-36c649041933n%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/46a49975-dbaa-48d5-b50f-36c649041933n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >
Hello Amon,
Your document’s formatting is broken, because you use MediaWiki syntax in a Markdown file.
IMHO, any proposal that calls for Bitcoin to issue a substantial quantum bounty should make the case why this would be in the interest of the Bitcoin ecosystem. Your proposal treats this as obvious, but it’s not clear to me why the Bitcoin ecosystem should involve itself in this manner in Quantum research.
-Murch
On 2026-05-07 08:37, Amon BAZONGO wrote:
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> Hi all, > > I'd like to share a draft Informational BIP as an alternative > framework to BIP-361's proposed coin freeze. > > The core argument: rather than suspending Bitcoin's neutrality to > prevent quantum theft, we can structure the inevitable quantum capture > of exposed coins as a self-financing prize mechanism — the largest > open technological prize in history. > > The proposal introduces three components: > > - Genesis Quantum Transaction (GQT): recognition of a successful spend > from a quantum-exposed address > - Quantum Vault (QV): automatically receives 90% of captured funds, > distributes periodically to proven quantum actors synchronized with > the halving cycle > - Quantum Proof Address (QPA): the on-chain identity of any actor who > demonstrates quantum capture capability, forming a public, > unfalsifiable register of global quantum capabilities > > The capturing actor receives 10% immediately as a First Reward, with > ongoing distributions from the Vault — creating long-term alignment > with ecosystem stability rather than incentivizing immediate liquidation. > > Draft: > https://github.com/amonmoce/Hunting-The-Bitcoin-One-Piece/blob/master/bip-hunting-the-bitcoin-one-piece.md > > Looking forward to technical and philosophical feedback. > > Best, > Amon -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups•com. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/46a49975-dbaa-48d5-b50f-36c649041933n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/46a49975-dbaa-48d5-b50f-36c649041933n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.
Hello Murch,
Thanks for the feedback.
I will remove the mediawiki syntax and keep it simple ... thanks for pointing that out.
You are right that it must be clearer, but let me add more clarity here:
1. The Bitcoin ecosystem is already pretty much concerned about Quantum. That is a fact regarding the number of quantum-related BIP 2. Now, the ecosystem has no incentive to actively participate in Quantum research. But the obvious part is no matter what the ecosystem does, some entity will be able to put in place a quantum computer somewhere in the world. And when that happens, millions of BTC might be accessible by this or those entities. That's why BIP-361 has been issued to address this issue. So the Quantum research advancement will (is already) clearly impact the Bitcoin ecosystem 3. BIP-361 proposes to freeze all unsafe Bitcoin, which means that those will be lost for real this time. What I propose is to find a way to recover those Bitcoin, to keep the 21 millions BTC intact and keep Bitcoin free of freeze. I am against freezing because if we freeze once, we might freeze a second time for some other reason we don't know yet. 4. That's why I propose to offer the unsafe Bitcoin as a bounty, in this way, the ecosystem will proove its utility in another way which is funding technological progress.
I hope that adds clarity to the idea.
Best, Amon
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 12:40 PM Murch <murch@murch•one> wrote:
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> Hello Amon, > > Your document’s formatting is broken, because you use MediaWiki syntax > in a Markdown file. > > IMHO, any proposal that calls for Bitcoin to issue a substantial quantum > bounty should make the case why this would be in the interest of the > Bitcoin ecosystem. Your proposal treats this as obvious, but it’s not > clear to me why the Bitcoin ecosystem should involve itself in this > manner in Quantum research. > > -Murch > > On 2026-05-07 08:37, Amon BAZONGO wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'd like to share a draft Informational BIP as an alternative > > framework to BIP-361's proposed coin freeze. > > > > The core argument: rather than suspending Bitcoin's neutrality to > > prevent quantum theft, we can structure the inevitable quantum capture > > of exposed coins as a self-financing prize mechanism — the largest > > open technological prize in history. > > > > The proposal introduces three components: > > > > - Genesis Quantum Transaction (GQT): recognition of a successful spend > > from a quantum-exposed address > > - Quantum Vault (QV): automatically receives 90% of captured funds, > > distributes periodically to proven quantum actors synchronized with > > the halving cycle > > - Quantum Proof Address (QPA): the on-chain identity of any actor who > > demonstrates quantum capture capability, forming a public, > > unfalsifiable register of global quantum capabilities > > > > The capturing actor receives 10% immediately as a First Reward, with > > ongoing distributions from the Vault — creating long-term alignment > > with ecosystem stability rather than incentivizing immediate liquidation. > > > > Draft: > > > https://github.com/amonmoce/Hunting-The-Bitcoin-One-Piece/blob/master/bip-hunting-the-bitcoin-one-piece.md > > > > Looking forward to technical and philosophical feedback. > > > > Best, > > Amon -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > an email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups•com. > > To view this discussion visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/46a49975-dbaa-48d5-b50f-36c649041933n%40googlegroups.com > > < > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/46a49975-dbaa-48d5-b50f-36c649041933n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer > >. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups•com. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/6469ae87-7225-41a2-bc67-3f3e46e6a279%40murch.one > . >